Showing posts with label Richard Clarke. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Richard Clarke. Show all posts

Monday, February 8, 2010

Clarke Speaks Out Against "The Party Out of Power"

Richard Clarke, former counter-terrorism adviser for Clinton and G.W. Bush, calls in the New York Daily News for "the party out of power" to back off the criticism of Obama's national security policies.

Clarke lists several bones of contention in support of Obama's program. His first point is that it was Bush who released Gitmo graduates that have returned to fight for al-Qaeda, not Obama. Clarke says, "Obama's new review process has been successful in identifying those who might be recidivists and has kept them in custody."

Well, that remains to be seen, doesn't it? We don't really know yet what those that Obama has released are doing. We do know, however, that he has released some pretty unsavory characters, among them Hasan Zumiri (or Hasan Zemiri) and Adil Hadi al Jazairi Bin Hamlili and don't forget Qais Qazli who is about as nasty as they get. The point is, there's very little transparency here about who is getting released, why, and what happens to them afterward, so Clarke is making an assumption that Obama's releases have been, or will continue to be, risk free.

Clarke's second point, that terrorists will talk without torture, is also sketchy. Some might, some won't. I think Marc Thiessen makes this case pretty clear when he outlines how the CIA got information out of KSM which prevented another mass attack. We would not have obtained that information without enhanced interrogation. Clarke is off base when he assumes one strategy for everyone and every case.

Clarke then moves on to tout the security and safety of holding terrorists on US soil in US prisons. He says (emphasis mine),

There is a repeated chorus that housing Al Qaeda terrorists in U.S. prisons is some sort of risk to American security. For some reason they are supposed to be less risky if they are jailed in Cuba. Yet, there have been Al Qaeda terrorists housed in U.S. prisons for years. The Supermax facility in Florence, CO, has the Unabomber, the Oklahoma City bomber and the shoe bomber, and many other Al Qaeda terrorists. They are all in confinement in a place that is a lot more punishing than being in Cuba. U.S. federal prisons work well and no Al Qaeda prisoner is a Houdini.

Yet there is no good reason NOT to hold them in Cuba. The case has been made time and time again that Guantanamo is a model, Geneva compliant prison. The prisoners don't even want to come here! And maybe I missed something, but the prisoners Clarke listed are not al-Qaeda terrorists. I'm pretty sure the Unabomber was not affiliated with al-Qaeda.

You can read the rest of Clarke's argument here, but I've seen enough.

Update: As an afterthought, I want to go back to Clarke's point that only the terrorists released by Bush have returned to the fight. I still stand by my statement that it remains to be seen what happens with Obama's releases, but want to add that of course, one error should not lead to another. It is the obligation of the Obama administration to learn from the errors of the Bush administration. Bush certainly made some mistakes - he released some folks that should not have been released. Another huge mistake was not properly explaining the role of Gitmo or defending those who worked there. That led the American public and many of our overseas critics to blur the lines between Abu Ghraib and Gitmo.

Again, one would hope Obama would learn from those mistakes rather than compound them.


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Richard Clarke on the Gitmo Video

Saturday, May 9, 2009

Richard Clarke on the Gitmo Video

Richard Clarke, the former counterterrorism official who worked for Bush, Clinton and other presidents, is speaking out against the GOP video about Guantanamo prisoners.

Clarke's comment on the video:

"This video and the recent Republican attacks on Guantanamo are more desperate attempts from a demoralized party to politicize national security and the safety of the American people,” said Clarke, who now works with the left-leaning National Security Network. “But what is more disturbing is their brazen use of imagery and the memory of 9/11 to score political points. Thousands of Americans tragically died that day, and for the GOP to think it can win elections by denigrating their memory is disgraceful.”

I see Clarke's point but disagree to an extent. I think that the bigger problem is that people seem to have forgotten 9/11 and are so secure in their apparent conviction that it was a fluke, a once-in-a-lifetime event, that it can't happen again. I think people should be reminded of it to the point that it reminds us that our country is still in danger from those who would do us harm. The terrorists did not quit hating us just because Barack Obama was elected.

If an individual candidate were using 9/11 for self-promotion, as Rudy Guiliani did on occasion, I would agree with Clarke and disagree with that kind of use. That's not the intent here. The GOP is trying to raise awareness that these terrorists are coming to your neighborhood. The bigger point is that these are not your common street thugs. These are terrorists and the threat isn't just "what if they escape" but that their very presence makes the entire community a target for those other terrorists on the outside.

Their presence in those prisons puts the prison workers at risk - those prisons often use civilian workers in many positions and other contract labor. Those people are not trained or prepared for these kinds of prisoners.

Part of the Gitmo problem is a chronic confusion between Gitmo and Abu Ghraib. Everyone agrees that what occurred at Abu Ghraib was a disgrace, but Gitmo is not that prison. As it is currently, Gitmo is a model facility for its purpose.

Jason Linkins on HuffPo agrees with Clarke and goes furter, saying that the Keep Terrorists Out of America Act should "be larded with the amendments it deserves, like the Push Jaywalkers Into The Ocean Amendment and the Shaming Bedwetters Resolution." He links to this parody of the GOP video:



The reader comments attached to Linkins post are incredible. Consider this excerpt from "whitehawk": "What makes me sick about this video and comments, is the hypocrisy of the GOP. Slavery ended, the rich republicans in southern states needed laborers for your plantations of cotton, what did they do after freedom for the slaves? They started bringing over Germans to America's south to work on the cotton farms, then after WWI and II, they brought home "Nazi" prisoners to work on the plantations. Now you've got the KKK, the skinheads, the 'religious' right radicals and many Senators that are from this group in Congress."

Then the commenter goes on to call the GOP a "hate group" and implying that the answer to everything is gun control. Go figure.

Here is "TruthJusticeForAll" weighing in with an equally asinine opinion: "I agree that W. & his administration should be investigated & prosecuted. Once (although, probably no more), ours was a country of laws & followed the rule of law. This is another problem created by W. & his criminal cohorts. The reason he put the "terrorists" in Gitmo was to deprive them access to the US legal system. Because of his illegal actions, he was able to keep them penned up for 8 years. The down side which is now coming to roost is that by doing so, he may be found to have deprived them of any right to a fair trial & proper defense."

I'm not going to pick that one apart, but I do want to point out that he puts the word terrorists in quotation marks, as if KSM isn't a terrorist. We just rounded these poor goatherds up at random and threw 'em in Gitmo just to screw with their lives and keep them "penned up."

What scares me is that these people vote!

At any rate, Clarke's opinion that the GOP is simply trying to gain political points doesn't hold water. It's a much bigger issue. Consider also that the terrorists released here, not the ones we'll continue to detain, mind you, are to be given welfare assistance, that is, taxpayer dollars. They tried to destroy our country and we're going to pay them and bring them across the borders and set them free. Please explain to me how this is going to keep our country safer.

Every December 7 we stop and remember Pearl Harbor Day and honor those lives that were lost there. We keep that day in the memory of our American story, why not 9/11? Clarke accuses the GOP of "denigrating" the memory of the lives that were lost, but what I think denigrates their memory is the way the Obama administration is glossing over what happened that day. Just ask Debra Burlingame - she made it clear in the WSJ yesterday that those families don't want these terrorists in our country.

If you haven't seen it yet, here is the GOP video:


(Photo credit: Fox News)